we have migrated from exchagne 2003 to 2007. Since we can not send message larger then 22MB. we have set all the following limits. We have bypassed hte spam filtering to tast also. What are we missing [PS] C:\Windows\System32>get-transportconfig MaxDumpsterSizePerStorageGroup : 100MB MaxDumpsterTime : 7.00:00:00 MaxReceiveSize : 100MB MaxRecipientEnvelopeLimit : unlimited MaxSendSize : 100MB [PS] C:\Windows\System32>get-receiveconnector | list MaxMessageSize : 100MB Name : Default USSJCXHUB1001 MaxMessageSize : 100MB Name : Client USSJCXHUB1001 [PS] C:\Windows\System32>get-transportserver | list Name : USSJCXHUB1001 ExternalDsnMaxMessageAttachSize : 10MB InternalDsnMaxMessageAttachSize : 10MB InternalDsnReportingAuthority : USSJCXHUB1001.alfatech.net InternalDsnSendHtml : True MaxConcurrentMailboxDeliveries : 7 MaxConcurrentMailboxSubmissions : 20 MaxConnectionRatePerMinute : 1200 MaxOutboundConnections : 1000 MaxPerDomainOutboundConnections : 20 MessageExpirationTimeout : 2.00:00:00 MessageRetryInterval : 00:01:00 MessageTrackingLogEnabled : True MessageTrackingLogMaxAge : 30.00:00:00 MessageTrackingLogMaxDirectorySize : 250MB MessageTrackingLogMaxFileSize : 10MB MessageTrackingLogPath : C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange S erver\TransportRoles\Logs\MessageTrac king MessageTrackingLogSubjectLoggingEnabled : True OutboundConnectionFailureRetryInterval : 00:10:00 IntraOrgConnectorProtocolLoggingLevel : None PickupDirectoryMaxHeaderSize : 64KB PickupDirectoryMaxMessagesPerMinute : 100 PickupDirectoryMaxRecipientsPerMessage : 100 PickupDirectoryPath : C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange S erver\TransportRoles\Pickup PipelineTracingEnabled : False ContentConversionTracingEnabled : False PipelineTracingPath : C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange S erver\TransportRoles\Logs\PipelineTra cing PipelineTracingSenderAddress : PoisonMessageDetectionEnabled : True PoisonThreshold : 2 QueueMaxIdleTime : 00:03:00 ReceiveProtocolLogMaxAge : 30.00:00:00 ReceiveProtocolLogMaxDirectorySize : 250MB ReceiveProtocolLogMaxFileSize : 10MB ReceiveProtocolLogPath : C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange S erver\TransportRoles\Logs\ProtocolLog \SmtpReceive RecipientValidationCacheEnabled : False ReplayDirectoryPath : C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange S erver\TransportRoles\Replay RootDropDirectoryPath : RoutingTableLogMaxAge : 7.00:00:00 RoutingTableLogMaxDirectorySize : 50MB RoutingTableLogPath : C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange S erver\TransportRoles\Logs\Routing SendProtocolLogMaxAge : 30.00:00:00 SendProtocolLogMaxDirectorySize : 250MB SendProtocolLogMaxFileSize : 10MB SendProtocolLogPath : C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange S erver\TransportRoles\Logs\ProtocolLog \SmtpSend TransientFailureRetryCount : 6 TransientFailureRetryInterval : 00:05:00 AntispamUpdatesEnabled : False InternalTransportCertificateThumbprint : EBEFBD7A0372AE32F3ECCAD1E22F0F35CF788 143 IsValid : True OriginatingServer : USSJCDC1001.alfatech.net ExchangeVersion : 0.1 (8.0.535.0) DistinguishedName : CN=USSJCXHUB1001,CN=Servers,CN=Exchan ge Administrative Group (FYDIBOHF23SP DLT),CN=Administrative Groups,CN=Alfa Tech,CN=Microsoft Exchange,CN=Servic es,CN=Configuration,DC=alfatech,DC=ne t Identity : USSJCXHUB1001 [PS] C:\Windows\System32>get-mailbox Name Alias ServerName ProhibitSendQuo ta ---- ----- ---------- --------------- Administrator Administrator ussjcxhub1001 unlimited journal journal ussjcxhub1001 unlimited Srv Admin srvadmin ussjcxhub1001 unlimited domain admin domain.admin ussjcxhub1001 unlimited VERITAS VERITAS ussjcxhub1001 unlimited Veritassj Veritassj ussjcxhub1001 unlimited Mail Attender mailattender ussjcxhub1001 unlimited BES Admin BESAdmin ussjcxhub1001 unlimited Mark Smith marks ussjcxhub1001 un

Have you looked at your send and receive connectors? Get-SendConnector and Get-ReceiveConnector. They each have their own message limits.Tim Harrington - Catapult Systems - http://HowDoUC.blogspot.com

Check all possibilities: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124345(EXCHG.80).aspx Managing Message Size Limits Can you post the exact NDR users get when the message bounces?

The default send and receive are set at 10MB. You need to increase the send connectors if you want to send over 10MB.

Tes the get-receiveconnector is above it states 100MB. The send connector is the same size. [PS] C:\Windows\System32>get-sendconnector | list AddressSpaces : {SMTP:*;1} HomeMTA : Microsoft MTA HomeMtaServerId : SJXBE01 Identity : SMTP outbound MaxMessageSize : 100MB Name : SMTP outbound Port : 25 SourceTransportServers : {SJXBE01} UseExternalDNSServersEnabled : False

Andy, that is the doc I have been using to try to figure this out. I have made all the settings according to this doc. Is there a way to know which limit it causing the message gt get the NDR. thanks. Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: The following recipient(s) cannot be reached: tim.meaney@atce.com on 10/3/2010 11:53 PM This message is larger than the current system limit or the recipient's mailbox is full. Create a shorter message body or remove attachments and try sending it again. <sfdc-fe-02.bluemeaney.com #5.2.3>

What server is sfdc-fe-02.bluemeaney.com ?

That is an external server we are testing from. We get the same results from google and others.me

Ok, so which server receives mail from the internet? If you telnet to it on port 25 from sfdc-fe-02.bluemeaney.com , and issue an EHLO command, what does it show for SIZE?

atce.com appears to use Postini for inbound messaging. Since the NDR is being rejected on the sending server it would appear to be receiving this NDR from the receiving server, which in this case would be a Postini managed server. Have you looked at the message settings and logs there?

EHLO relay03.bluemeaney.com 250-ussjcxhub1001.alfatech.net Hello [69.25.105.199] 250-SIZE 250-PIPELINING 250-DSN 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-STARTTLS 250-X-ANONYMOUSTLS 250-AUTH NTLM 250-X-EXPS GSSAPI NTLM 250-8BITMIME 250-BINARYMIME 250-CHUNKING 250-XEXCH50 250 XRDSTme

relay03.bluemeaney.com is an Exchange Server or authenticates to the ussjcxhub1001.alfatech.net server yes? To see the SIZE command return the allowed message size you need to telnet from a server that submits messages to Exchange anonymously.

Based on a quick pass of their Mx records, it looks like they use Postini... so the NDR is being served up from there unless I'm missing something.

Based on a quick pass of their Mx records, it looks like they use Postini... so the NDR is being served up from there unless I'm missing something. That may be the issue. I was thinking that was an Exchange NDR, but you could be right. :)

I I found a SMTP relay they didnt mention. I followed the path hop by hop, located it and fixed it Thanks for the help.me

On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 17:01:21 +0000, Chris Scharff wrote: >atce.com appears to use Postini for inbound messaging. Since the NDR is being rejected on the sending server it would appear to be receiving this NDR from the receiving server, which in this case would be a Postini managed server. Have you looked at the message settings and logs there? Postini's servers don't restict size (at least not at the protocol level): 220 Postini ESMTP 286 postini-dev-09/07/10_10:06:14 ready. CA Business and Professions Code Section 17538.45 forbids use of this system for unsolicited electronic mail advertisements. ehlo XXXXXXX.com 250-Postini says hello back 250-STARTTLS 250-8BITMIME 250 HELP However, that 22MB maximum size fits with there being a 30MB size limit on a server somewhere. --- Rich Matheisen MCSE+I, Exchange MVP --- Rich Matheisen MCSE+I, Exchange MVP