- Marked as answer by Fred DiggsModerator Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:38 PM
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- Marked as answer by Fred DiggsModerator Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:38 PM
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I'm generally fine with the ribbon for actions. However for options that I need to turn on and off on a by object basis they need to be accessible and I can't even find the snaps and glues which had their own toolbar before. Where did they go and is there anyway to get access to them in mass instead of adding them 1-by-1 to the QAT?
- Marked as answer by Fred DiggsModerator Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:38 PM
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I second that sentiment. I have been cursing @ Visio 2010 since I installed it. I'm not seeing any really good reasons why anyone should upgrade from 2007. While it is easier to bring up shapes its harder to do and find the core functions like this one.
Anyway, thanks for asking the question so I could find it on google.
I, too, looked on the Visio online help for "Glue" and could not find the entry. *sigh* And Snap and Glue have nothing to do with Visual Aids. They are Layout functions and belong in "Design > Layout."
I'm very disappointed in what MS has done to Visio. Nearly every keyboard shortcut requires 2-3 keyboard keys (as with other 2007+ Office products) but what's worse is that Visio is a design tool so the mouse is contstantly in my right hand. Many of the shortcuts require left and right sides of the keyboard.
While the new Office ribbon is meant to help novice and intermediate Information Workers find the functionality that would not usually be exposed through the classic menus, it really screws the power users. Visio is not a novice or intermediate Office product. It should have been designed with a power user in mind.
I had to create a custom toolbar but not all the functions have buttons, such as Distribute Shapes.
*sigh*
It’s always a pain to have to relearn an updated UI. It always makes you feel like I’m pulling your hair out with something you would normally be proficient at. I don’t mind reorganizing when it is for the better but unfortunately when a function is moved to a place that it DOES NOT belong like “Snap & Glue” in this circumstance it really irritates you.
This is too typical of MS’s very poorly managed cross functional team. If management would lay-out a good function flow chart for all organizational teams to abide by this kind of nonsense wouldn’t happen. It is obvious that the programmer that made the decision to put a function control under View didn’t understand the tool, nor did the group that reviews their work. This shows multiple layers of an organization at fault and again doesn’t say much good about MS’s management team. Nothing new of course!
This function should be part of the “Home/Arrange” group were you find other tools like “Auto Align & Space” now that would make more sense wouldn’t it?
Once again bang up job on poor programming!
I agree that Snap & Glue don't have anything to do with Visual Aides. Thankfully in Office 2010 you can customize the ribbon. Because I toggle snap and glue often enough, I created another ribbon tab for snap and glue. You can import and export ribbon customizations in Visio 2010.
Here's the customization file. Copy this text to notepad and save it as "Visio Customizations.exportedUI". Then, import this file in Visio by going to File -> Options -> Customize Ribbon -> Import/Export -> Import Customization File.
<mso:cmd app="Visio" dt="1" /><mso:customUI xmlns:mso="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2009/07/customui"><mso:ribbon><mso:qat/><mso:tabs><mso:tab id="mso_c1.2EC6FC8C" label="Snap && Glue" insertBeforeQ="mso:TabData"><mso:group id="mso_c2.2EC6FC8C" label="Snap" autoScale="true"><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToggle" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToAlignmentBox" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToDrawingAids" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToGridVisio" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToRulerSubdivisions" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapToShapeIntersections" visible="true"/></mso:group><mso:group id="mso_c3.2EC83393" label="Glue" autoScale="true"><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToggle" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToConnectionPoints" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToGuides" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToShapeGeometry" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToShapeHandles" visible="true"/><mso:control idQ="mso:GlueToShapeVertices" visible="true"/></mso:group><mso:group id="mso_c1.2ECA6359" label="Advanced" autoScale="true"><mso:control idQ="mso:SnapAndGlueDialog" imageMso="QueryUnionQuery" visible="true"/></mso:group></mso:tab></mso:tabs></mso:ribbon></mso:customUI>
I have been using MS products for 25 years, working in the IT department of a small college. This is the first time i have made an entry to a forum like this, simply to express my frustration at Microsoft for chaging the UI so much that it is virtually hair-pulling every time I want to create something in Visio. I WILL not recommend MS products anymore, simply because they've made a product I used to use (VISIO) very UNFRIENDLY to the non-new users who used to know how to do things. -- Microsoft, you've lost my vote, you'd think programmers there would find a way to allow their legacy users to switch to the legacy UI. Microsoft has made me feel like a legacy. Thank you.... NOT. -- Unhappy with Microsoft in Maine.
I am in the same boat as tom177. I couldn't agree more.
I would have to agree with all that it is not intuitive.
I couldn't agree more. I still keep having to google things I could easily find in earlier iterations of Office. The ribbon is a gigantic failure in usability.
I hate the ribbon with a vengeance!
NullMan, you just made my day.
This IS a frustrating problem, but at least I've now been able to modify Visio 2010 to a point where it is ALMOST as functional as the 2007 I've learned on.
Thank you, thank you.
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Thanks,
I guess I will be back on TechNet much more frequently now I need to use Visio again after a few years break.
I really do not understand why MS feel compelled to muck around with the UI.
Visio users everywhere hate having to relearn the product on every new version.
A new UI is not an improvement, it is just different.