outbound Queue freeze
Hello
I have exchange 2010 SP1 on a vmware 4.1 esx.
Sometime (1 or 2 times per day) the outbound queue to our relay, freeze for 30mn or 1hour. nothing to do, restart transport service, restart relay ... mail don't go.
Then outbound queue empty itself and work fine.
when outbound freeze, we received all external mail.
In the time of a freeze i had logged on the excahnge server and make a telnet to the relay and send manually a mail, that work. I had delete and create the outbound connector.
thanks
May 21st, 2011 4:25am
From my experience that's caused by connectivity problems. Your server has trouble connecting to the destination server or smart host. Is your send connector configured to use a smart host? If so, you might want to reevaluate whether that
is necessary.Ed Crowley MVP "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
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May 22nd, 2011 1:11am
Hello,
yes my connector is configure to use a smarthost, but when the problem arrived, i had make a telnet directely from exchange server to smarthost and send manually mail with no problem.
How can i look if it is a connectivity problem ?
thanks
May 22nd, 2011 4:53am
Hi,
Is this queue for a perticular domain ?. What have you used in smart host field "IP" or FQDN of hostname, try to use IP address in place of host name here and have a try..
Stop any A/V service for some time on server and then reproduce this issue. Had you reboot server since you have encounter this.
If still no luck then enable protocol logging on Transport service and share log with us.
Enable protocol logging on a Send Connector::
http://exchangepedia.com/2007/05/exchange-server-2007-logging-smtp-protocol-activity.html
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124531.aspxAnil MCC 2011,ITIL V3,MCSA 2003,MCTS 2011, My Blog : http://messagingschool.wordpress.com
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May 22nd, 2011 8:39am
That may not tell you anything if the problem is intermittent.Ed Crowley MVP "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
May 22nd, 2011 3:54pm
Hi,
I test with IP against FQDN, but the problem persist, i have reboot the server a lot of time.
i had enable protocol log and here the result
2011-05-23T07:10:57.524Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,2,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,<,220 fw.domain.com Sendmail ready. ,
2011-05-23T07:10:57.524Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,3,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,>,EHLO mail.domain.com,
2011-05-23T07:10:57.524Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,4,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,<,"500 Syntax Error, command unrecognized",
2011-05-23T07:10:57.524Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,5,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,>,HELO mail.domain.com,
2011-05-23T07:10:57.524Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,6,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,<,"250 fw.domain.com pleased to meet you, mail.domain.com",
2011-05-23T07:10:57.524Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,7,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,*,428688,sending message
2011-05-23T07:10:57.524Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,8,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,>,MAIL FROM:<Evelyne.Laura@domain.com>,
2011-05-23T07:10:57.524Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,9,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,<,"250 sender is <Evelyne.Laura@domain.com>, sender OK",
2011-05-23T07:10:57.524Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,10,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,>,RCPT TO:<mone.christian@yahoo.fr>,
2011-05-23T07:10:57.524Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,11,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,<,"250 recipient <mone.christian@yahoo.fr>, recipient OK",
2011-05-23T07:10:57.649Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,12,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,>,DATA,
2011-05-23T07:10:57.649Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,13,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,<,354 OK End with <CRLF>.<CRLF>,
2011-05-23T07:18:27.859Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE4F6027AF1A5,14,200.0.0.218:30530,192.168.250.250:25,-,,Remote
2011-05-23T07:18:35.609Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,0,,192.168.250.250:25,*,,attempting to connect
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,1,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,+,,
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,2,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,<,220 fw.domain.com Sendmail ready. ,
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,3,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,>,EHLO mail.domain.com,
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,4,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,<,"500 Syntax Error, command unrecognized",
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,5,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,>,HELO mail.domain.com,
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,6,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,<,"250 fw.domain.com pleased to meet you, mail.domain.com",
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,7,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,*,428703,sending message
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,8,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,>,MAIL FROM:<Laetizia.Barbin@domain.com>,
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,9,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,<,"250 sender is <Laetizia.Barbin@domain.com>, sender OK",
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,10,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,>,RCPT TO:<marie-noelle.halbwax@dgfip.finances.gouv.fr>,
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,11,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,<,"250 recipient <marie-noelle.halbwax@dgfip.finances.gouv.fr>, recipient OK",
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,12,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,>,RCPT TO:<evelynemartiska@aol.fr>,
2011-05-23T07:18:35.625Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,13,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,<,"250 recipient <evelynemartiska@aol.fr>, recipient OK",
2011-05-23T07:18:35.703Z,mail.domain.com,08CDE730C3A2DB4E,14,200.0.0.218:30642,192.168.250.250:25,>,DATA,
rhe first mail from evelyne.laura spend a lot of time (no larg mail) and when it will send the other mail go.
thank you for help
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May 23rd, 2011 4:38am
First, I find it odd that your smart host won't accept an EHLO command. If all your outbound mail is going to a smart host and that smart host is causing you a delay, then I suggest that your problem is due to the smart host.Ed Crowley MVP "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
May 23rd, 2011 9:52am
On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:46:35 +0000, Ed Crowley [MVP] wrote:
>
>
>First, I find it odd that your smart host won't accept an EHLO command.
It doesn't advertise "ESMTP" in the 220 banner so it not accepting the
EHLO isn't a surprise.
>If all your outbound mail is going to a smart host and that smart host is causing you a delay, then I suggest that your problem is due to the smart host.
It's never completing the DATA portion of the conversation. It could
be something like a MTU size mismatch causing packet fragmentation,
but that's just a wild guess.
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May 23rd, 2011 9:59pm
Thank you for reply, how can i see if the cause is a packet fragmentation ?
May 24th, 2011 2:29am
On Tue, 24 May 2011 06:23:13 +0000, yannick67 wrote:
>Thank you for reply, how can i see if the cause is a packet fragmentation ?
A simple, but not definitive, test would be "ping <ip-address> -l 1472
-f". If it doesn't fail then the route doesn't contain any odd-sized
MTUs or devices that add data to a full-size packet.
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May 24th, 2011 8:06pm
Hi,
Have you tried to create a new send connector to check the result? Does the issue occur when the message includes certain sender and reception or it occurs occasionally?
At this stage, I suggest you create another Send connector and reproduce the symptom. If the issue persists, I suggest you
capture a netmon trance for research:
[Netmon]
==========
1) Please download netmon tool at below link and install it on the Exchange server.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=983b941d-06cb-4658-b7f6-3088333d062f
2) Launch Microsoft Network Monitor 3.4, click File -> New -> Capture. On the right panel, click “Select Networks” tab, and check the VPN connection.
Click “Tools”->”Options”. increase the temporary capture file size to at least 100MB. Then click “Capture”->”start”.
Note: Click Capture just before we reproduce the problem. Otherwise, the NetMon log may not capture the required information because we limit the buffer size to 100M.
3) Please reproduce the issue. Let me know the detailed time when the issue happens and the name of the problematic DC it access.
4) Switch back to Network Monitor, click “Capture” -> “Stop”, click “File” -> “Save As” to save it to a .cap file. Send the log file to
me and I will be glad to assist you to analyze it.
Thanks.
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May 24th, 2011 10:35pm
Thank you for reply, i test ping, and all packets were ok.
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May 25th, 2011 5:41am
Hi,
I also create a new connector and the problem persist.
I will install and run Netmon, but the problem occurs occasionally, some day 5 times, another 1 time, i must look log continually for launch netmon
When i'll got the file i will send you.
thanks
May 25th, 2011 5:46am
On Wed, 25 May 2011 09:35:30 +0000, yannick67 wrote:
>Thank you for reply, i test ping, and all packets were ok.
As I said, it was just a wild guess.
Now it's time for a network monitor. Wireshark works pretty well. Or
you can use NetMon.
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May 25th, 2011 9:26pm
Hi,
When the issue reoccurs, please take some times to perform the suggestions in above post and collect the netmon log for research. If there is any progress or question,
please feel free to post it here.
Thanks.
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May 26th, 2011 10:04pm
Hi
i had install NM but i'm not in office for 5 days, so i can't monitoring the server, i test next week.
thks
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May 27th, 2011 3:27am
Ok. If there is any progress, please feel free to post it here to discuss.
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May 29th, 2011 9:40pm
hi
i send you the capture make with NM, i'm looking to have another capture.
thanks
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June 2nd, 2011 3:49pm
No. I haven’t received any message with netmon log file. What’s the size of the file? If the file is too large, I suggest you attach the file via following
steps.
For your convenience, I have created a workspace for you.
You can upload the information files to the following link.
(Please choose "Send Files to Microsoft")
Workspace URL: (https://sftasia.one.microsoft.com/choosetransfer.aspx?key=a1b26d5f-963d-49e0-8010-ca790b3de0a6
)
Password:
Ie)gofXih4yl
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June 2nd, 2011 9:58pm
hi
i send the file, the connector is 192.168.250.250
thanks
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June 3rd, 2011 2:18am
i send you another file with more data from this morning.
June 3rd, 2011 5:47am