Problem adding Windows 7 laptop to home network with XP desktops
I'm having problems adding a new Windows 7 laptop to an existing wired/wireless home network, which has three XP desktops. The laptop connects to the internet fine. The desktop shows the laptop icon. The laptop shows the desktop icon. But neither will connect to the other.If I try to connect to the laptop from the desktop it says "... is not accessible... Access is denied."In the other direction: "... is not accessible... not enough server storage."The desktop has 4GB of RAM and plenty of HD space. The laptop has 3GB of RAM and plenty of HD space. The systems are updated. Right now the firewall is off on both. Sharing is on for both, without passwords.How can I get the new computer working on the network?1 person needs an answerI do too
June 3rd, 2010 6:00am

I've been through some of those steps and I'm getting closer (the computers show up on the network now - just can't access them yet). Right now I am waiting on the third party firewall tech support to get back to me.I have a question about the users and passwords. I want to be able to access the files without entering passwords. I need batch files and programs to be able to read and write files to other computers. If I set up the user/passwords, can I do that?
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June 3rd, 2010 10:24pm

Suggestion: Uninstall (don't just disable) all third-party firewalls. Use the built-in Windows Firewall and see how that goes. In most cases you don't need a third-party firewall and they tend to cause more trouble than they are worth. Since this is a home network, look into using OpenDNS (free) on your router instead as edge security in conjunction with the Windows Firewall.Yes, you can access files without entering passwords IF you create the matching user accounts/passwords on all Workgroup machines. It is precisely doing this that enables you to not have to enter a username/password when trying to access shared resources. As for your batch files/programs, it would depend on the individual batch files and programs. Anyone writing for Windows 7 should know that said batch files/programs should be created to the Least Privileged User standard. If you need help in doing that, best to post to the appropriate MSDN forum where you can communicate with other developers.MSDN forums -http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categoriesUser accounts - Recommended Setup (Vista andWin7 ) You absolutely do not want to have only one user account. Like XP and all other modern operating systems, Vista and Windows 7 are multi-user operating systems with built-in system accounts such as Administrator, Default, and Guest. These accounts should be left alone as they are part of the operating system structure.You particularly don't want only one user account with administrative privileges on Vista and Windows 7 because the built-in Administrator account (normally only used in emergencies) is disabled by default. If you're running as Administrator for your daily work and that account gets corrupted, things will be Difficult. It isn't impossible to activate the built-in Administrator to rescue things, but it may require more work than you want to do. Best not to get into a bad situation to begin with.The user account that is for your daily work should be a Standard user, with the extra administrative user (call it something like "CompAdmin" or "Tech" or the like) only there for elevation purposes. Running as a Standard user is best practice for security purposes and will help protect your computer from infection. After you create "CompAdmin", log into it and change your regular user account to Standard. Then log back into your regular account.If you want to go directly to the Desktop and skip the Welcome Screen with the icons of user accounts, you can do this:Start Orb>Search box>type: netplwiz [enter]Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by UACUncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if there is no password (null).MS-MVP - Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
June 3rd, 2010 11:49pm

First can you connect from any of the computers. Does the windows 7 laptop have networking enabled? Can you ping the windows xp computers from the windows 7 or can you ping the windows 7 computer from the windows xp? To ping go to start type in the search box cmd.exe go to it and type in ping (enter the computers ip address here)if that doesn't help then did you update the drivers for the network adapters or the router?Did you install the Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder component on the windows xp computers you can get the hotfix here at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120 Make sure homegroup is disabled and that its services aren't running.Do you have permission to acess the folder. Did you try connection on a admin account?
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June 5th, 2010 12:53am

On 6/3/2010 1:24 PM, Jan Philips wrote:> I've been through some of those steps and I'm getting closer> (the computers show up on the network now - just can't> access them yet). Right now I am waiting on the third> party firewall tech support to get back to me.> > I have a question about the users and passwords. I want to> be able to access the files without entering passwords. I> need batch files and programs to be able to read and write> files to other computers. If I set up the user/passwords,> can I do that?> What you need to do is on the Win7 computer underproperties/security, in addition to sharing, for the drivesyou want to share is to add "everyone" as a user. This isthe work around so you don't have to have users and passwords. pen34us
June 5th, 2010 2:38am

I'm sorry but that's incorrect. On a Workgroup, the "Everyone" group refers to all user accounts on the *local* system - not everyone in the room (so to speak). In a Workgroup, authentication for purposes of sharing local resources is done on the local machine since there is no server as there is in a domain.MS-MVP - Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
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June 5th, 2010 3:22pm

I've been working with suggestions from AVG for a few days. Now I have uninstalled AVG on the two computers that had it (of the four on the network), as someone here suggested. Right now those two are not running a firewall. None of the other computers on the network can access a hard drive on one of the two computers that used to have AVG. It gives messages "not accessible", "access denied", or "insufficient storage resources" (or something like that). Any suggestions of how to get it working?
June 12th, 2010 3:12am

And someone asked about pinging. Both of the computers with the problem ping 192.168.1.1 through .5 OK. I'm not sure why it goes to 5, since there are only 4 computers on the network.
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June 12th, 2010 4:30am

Well, you had best find out what device is using 192.168.1.5. Look in your router's DHCP table. Or perhaps you have a wireless/wired network printer?And your last reply illustrates why it is important to always give the exact text of error messages. Crystal Ball(tm) says that the "insufficient storage resources" is really this error:"Not enough server storage available". This error indicates that you are falling foul of the IRPStackSize bug. The problem is on the machine you are attempting to connect to, not the machine where you see the error message. On the computer you are attempting to connect to, check the event viewer for an event ID 2011. (credit Ron Lowe) Note: Antivirus programs are known for causing this issue, which dovetails into your experience with AVG.Antivirus Software May Cause Event ID 2011 (Q177078) - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;177078 Usual fix : You need to fix a parameter called IRPStackSizeOn the computer you are attempting to connect to, Set the IRPStackSize back to the default (15 ). Perform the following steps: 1. Start regedit. 2. Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\lanmanserver\parameters. 3. Double-click IRPStackSize (or if this registry setting doesn't exist, create it with type DWORD and ensure the case is correct). 4. Change the base to decimal, set the value to 15, and click OK. 5. Reboot the computer.Note: If the computer in question is running Vista or Windows 7, you will need to run regedit elevated. This is not necessary in XP.If the parameter is already 15, try increasing it one number at a time (i.e., 16 and then test, etc.) and testing after each change.MS-MVP - Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
June 12th, 2010 3:23pm

I have two printers, each attached to a different computer. How do I look at the router's DHCP table?
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June 12th, 2010 6:11pm

If the printers are attached locally they will not have their own IP addresses. To look at the router's DHCP table, go into the router's configuration utility and poke around. To get into the configuration utility, from a computer attached to the router by ethernet open a browser and put the router's IP address into the browser addressbar. For example, enter "http://192.168.1.1" (without the quotes). Refer to your router manual or its website if necessary.MS-MVP - Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
June 12th, 2010 6:37pm

OK, the router lists .2 through .5 as the computers. It seems that .1 is the router itself.
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June 12th, 2010 7:13pm

Fine. Now address the "not enough server storage..." error.MS-MVP - Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
June 12th, 2010 7:22pm

I don't know what run regedit "elevated" is, but I did run regedit on the W7 laptop. It didn't have the parameter, and I added it. The XP desktop had 15 and I raised it to 16. I rebooted both, no change.Here is the exact message:(XP desktop to W7 laptop)\\Laptop2\laptop C drive is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this networkresource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.Access is denied.The first part of W7 laptop to XP desktop is the same, but the last is:Not enough server storage is available to process the command.If I could get the W7 lapptop HD accessible from my main XP desktop, I could live with that. Also, is there a way to get the cursor to show up in these forums? Mine isn't showing and it is hard to see where I'm typing.
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June 12th, 2010 10:28pm

I've given you all the networking information I can in writing. At this point you should probably have someone skilled come on-site and set you up properly. It is very difficult to fix networking issues without being hands-on. Don't use a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.I'm sorry I was unable to help you,MS-MVP - Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
June 13th, 2010 12:12am

I'm wondering if it would be worth it. I can always transfer files with my external HD or thumb drive or email, if needed. The main thing I wanted to do was use the new laptop's HD as an additional backup for my main computer. But I could probably buy an additional external HD cheaper than I could get someone to come work on it.Any idea of how long it would take a skilled person to do it (I know a local company). I've spent about 20 hours on it myself.
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June 13th, 2010 2:28am

I hate to tell you this but generally setting up three computers to do file/printer sharing over the LAN takes under 10 minutes. Of course most techs charge a minimum hourly rate, but even so it shouldn't take very long.MS-MVP - Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
June 13th, 2010 2:37am

Contact MS TECH SUPPORT at 1800-936-5700(Toll free) n ask for Networking team. They may ask for remote access to ur computer n hope will be able to resolve the issue. *They may charge u for da service(US$59)
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June 13th, 2010 5:34pm

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